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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:03 pm 
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:15heartbeat: At 5:56, Pa got off the eggs and flew! I thought there was going to be a nest exchange, but no. Pa returned to the left branch at 5:58 and then to the eggs. Then at 6:29, Pa off the eggs again and flew out the rear. Ma returned to the nest at 6:31 and to the eggs for the night!


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:50 am 
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Mom is so careful when she moves around. Bless her heart. Angles wings around you and this nest. :7val: :5val:

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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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:15heartbeat: Pa arrived at 6:51 and Ma off the eggs and up to the left branch and flies! Pa to the eggs. Ma back at 8:55 with a fluff delivery. Pa seems a little hesitant to get up, but does and to the front rails, left branch, flies. Ma to the eggs!


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:32 pm 
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it sort of looks like one egg has collapsed a bit . that may the one I saw the pip on , and it may have just been starting to break. . I also saw that same egg sort of sunken in one spot yesterday, but made no mention as too many nay sayers . I am not seeing in full size picture pieces of shell, like some say.

wait and see. best not to say too much as so many opinions but I always trust nature and its ways . what will be will be. the weather has been so wet. it could just be the light .

I am out most of day so will check when I get back. will hope for the best always. :7val:

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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:44 pm 
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before i leave. we have one egg. hope it will be o.k. dad has been eating some of shell of other. He is very careful of other egg.
we can try and guess all we want about other but it is what it si, and this is nature, beautiful but at sometimes a little sad.

whatever happens, they will be fine. my favorite pair, always. :7val:

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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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:girlsad3: A few minutes ago, I saw Pa rolling 1 egg only. Had to stop and take a deep breath. I have not gone back to see what is going on per the DVR as yet, but will shortly. I saw on chat, many are saying the egg did not seem to contain the remains of a chick. I read on chat yesterday from one who posted Dr. Carleton said last year that Ma may have difficulty to be in the correct position for fertilization with her injured leg in the future. I did not see this from Dr. Carleton myself, but it certainly seems reasonable. We all have been able to see the progressive decline in this leg from season to season. Hoping the 2nd egg hatches, but feel I need to brace myself for other outcome if necessary. Really hope Dr. Carleton will comment at some point.


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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:15heartbeat: Have reviewed and did not see the remains of a chick in the broken egg.

10:53 Pa returned with fluff, Ma flies.
10:54 Pa to eggs. Left egg is open. Pa started to roll the egg, then stopped, don't think it could roll as normal.
11:15 Pa raised up off the eggs and is consuming something as in possible liquid (I can not see an object), from the floor of the bowl that is away from, but near the eggs. From overhead saw some small pieces of broken egg shell on the floor of the bowl that he consumed.
11:18 Back on eggs.
11:44 Pa raises up and keeps looking down, only 1/2 of a shell seen on the right at this time.
11:55 Saw the shadow of a large bird flying over that was cast across the nest. Pa was looking and alerting to this. App cam is down and unable to review.
12:27 Pa up and can see broken shell scattered about the floor of the bowl.
12:34 Pa up and nibbles on some of the small pieces of shell on the floor of the bowl.
1:02 Interestingly, Pa moved abruptly and looked down as he does when he feels something move under him in the bowl. Then he got up and looked and nibbled some from the floor. Back down. Up again nibbling. Suddenly, he pulled up large piece of white content that was flattened that looked as if it could possibly be egg shell with inner lining attached and he placed it to the side.
1:32 Pa up and rolls the remaining egg, then takes one nibble from the floor of the bowl.
2:04 Pa gets off the bowl and takes the white object he had placed to the side previously and moves it to the area they store their food on the nest. Then back to incubate the egg.
2:28 He gets up and rolls the egg and changes position and back down.
2:29 He rotates position again, rolls the egg, aerates.
2:46 Ma arrives to the nest with a stick. Pa got up and to the left limb and flew as Ma was trying to place the limb. She sees the white object in the food pile. She grabs the stick to place toward the left of the nest. She nibbles at the white object, picks it up, drops it, then looks toward the bowl 5 times. Ma to the bowl. She aerates and can tell she is getting some substance in her beak each time she raises he head as she nibbles some. She picks up the stick she had placed and moves it to in front of the bowl area, rolls the egg that is partially covered in fluff from her aeration work.
2:54 Ma settles.


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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:15heartbeat: Berry College Eagles
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We are sad to announce that sometime this morning, one egg appears to have been crushed. While it is possible the egg was not viable from the start, there is no way to tell for certain. We must keep in mind that this is not an uncommon occurrence in many eagle nests. The parents may move the crushed egg to the side of the nest, bury it or completely remove it from the nest area.

As the second egg appears intact, and is still within the potential hatching window, we remain hopeful for one healthy eaglet.


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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:15heartbeat: Ma gets up and moves to the rear of the nest and flies at 4:14. She returned at 4:18 and moved to the bowl eating remnants from it that still remain. She settles at 4:22. She got off the bowl at 5:27 and to the left branch and was vocal before flying. Pa to the nest from the rear at 5:29 and then to the bowl to incubate. At 6:08, Pa off the egg and looking down, then he went to the rear of the nest and flew at 6:09. Ma to the nest at 6:13, then toward the bowl and egg for the night. Ma asleep with her head tucked at 12:34.


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:58 am 
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dad relieves mom. she looks back at egg
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mom back . not a long time out this morning

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will try and get photo of egg but off for most of day

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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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:15heartbeat: Ma up and alerting at 8:48 and flew out the rear and Pa landed immediately on the rear rails, but he waited a couple minutes before going to the egg as he seemed to be watching outward from the nest. Read that one of the photographers said there were intruders in the area yesterday. After looking out the rear of the nest at 12:01 and alerting, Pa got off the egg right away and flew in that direction. He returned to the nest at 12:03 from that direction with another eagle flying on a mission in front of him! Ma after an intruder? Pa to the egg. While he was away, from the overhead cam the egg has a crack possibly (seems a little offset in 1 area) without any movement seen. There is also debris in the area, so it makes it a little more difficult to discern for sure. A possible crack can also be seen at 9:14. At somewhere around 3:00 am this morning there was a video done of Ma rolling the egg, but instead of an easy roll, she seemed to have to dislodge it. Hoping Ma and Pa remain safe here as it seems there is an intruder in the area. Pa flew at 12:41. By 2:02, Pa nor Ma have returned to the egg. Pa returned from the rear at the very end of the 2:25 minute, walked to the bowl, started to roll the egg, but didn't and is lying over it now while pulling fluff toward his chest as I leave. At 4:21 Pa is off the eggs and vocal and to the rear. Then he hopped upward from the rear and flew out the front of the nest. He's back at 4:22 and goes to the egg and rolls, settles, vocal. At 4:22, he's up again and flies out the rear. Then Ma arrives to the rear rails at 4:36 and is vocal. A minute later, she went to the left branch and flew. At 4:37, also Pa returns to the left branch and then to the egg. At 5:02, Pa is off the egg, vocal, flies out the rear. Ma arrives to the rear rails at 5:04 and stands there. Can not see her whole head, but can tell she is watching all around her! Really think there are intruders in the area again today. After standing on the rear rails all this time, Ma went to the left branch and flew at 5:23. The egg remains alone at 5:40 as I leave. At 6:32, Ma flies to the nest from the front. To the egg at 6:33, then rolls, aerations, fluff and settles 5 minutes later with a little more fluff to her chest. Pa arrives to the rear at 6:54 and Ma stares at him while he fiddles with a stick, then fiddles with the shell in the prey pile, tries to tame a wayward stick on the left rail, Ma quits staring at him now. At 6:56, she gets off the egg and he positions to the right of the nest to take over bowl duties. Ma flew out at 6:59 from the rear and Pa to the egg. Ma has not returned as of 12:43 am and Pa continues to incubate the egg.


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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:15heartbeat: Pa spent the whole night. He was vocal and got off the egg and flew at 7:21. Ma flew to the left branch at 7:24, then hopped down to the nest, but only stood outside the bowl. She flew out the rear at 7:26. Pa arrived to the left branch in the same minute. He walked down the branch and to the egg. Cams went down at 7:37, but returned and there has been a reset at about 8:45 and Pa remains on duty. Pa flew at 9:29 and returned at 9:31 to the eggs. From overhead cam, the egg looks intact this view. Pa continues on the egg. Chat is reporting that a ground observer just reported: "Mom just arrived and is on her favorite perch @ 4:40pm." Pa remains on duty at 6:30 pm. Pa still on the egg at 11:38.


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
PostPosted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:21 pm 
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glad soaring she made it to nest site. she said she was going. was there at noon and saw nothing

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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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mom was still on her favorite perch whne ground crew left at 6Pm

last night whne mom came in , she was all snug on eggs and Pa almost insisted in his way that he take over. So she up and left

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:15heartbeat: At 8:27, Pa got off the egg, up to the left branch, vocal and flew. He returned to the left branch at 8:29, then down to the nest and egg. Then at the end of the 8:33 minute, Pa got off the egg and seconds later flew out the rear. Ma arrives to the rear of the nest at 8:53. Without leaving her spot she reached down to the nest floor and did a little aeration. She kept looking behind and she turned and flew out the rear at 8:57. Went back on the DVR and found Ma had also been in at 7:16 this morning. Pa wasted no time getting off the egg flying up to the left branch and flapping his wings to rid the moisture, then flying away. Eventually she went toward the egg and leaned over and aerated the bowl some. At 7:20, she turned away from the bowl and up to the left branch and flew. (Pa returned at 7:21 to the egg.)


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:06 am 
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Poor ma. I am just wondering if she cannot bend well with her leg. all that rain and cold certainly no t good for it. I guess we shall see .


she also ate possum thi s morning.
But we are not in their heads and it is what it is and I love them both regardless

mom covering egg remnants this morning
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Video link mom covering egg remnants with hay. bless her heart
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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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:15heartbeat: Pa arrived to the rear rails at 10:00 and then to the egg. Pa still here at 1:45. Pa left the egg and went up to the left branch at 2:32, then he flew 2 minutes later. He returned to the rear rail at 2:35. He flew from there out the front of the nest at 2:38. He returned at 2:50, went to the egg and rolled it, the egg rolled right back to it's previous position and he laid over the bowl. At 3:05, Pa got off the egg and flew from the nest out the front. He returned at 3:08 to the rear, got on the egg, rolled it, then he got over the bowl. At 3:09, he's vocal, looking around, off the egg, to the left branch, Ma arrives to the rear. He remains vocal and flew. Ma leans over and spreads a little fluff that was already there, then stands up again. She flew at 3:20 from this position out the front of the nest. Ma very vocal lands on the rear rail at 4:12. She flew from this position at 4:25 out the front of the nest. Pa arrives at 4:29 with a very nice, headless, fish to the rear! He then stood on the fish for a few seconds, then went to the bowl and got over the egg at 4:32. He changed position at about 5:05, then back down and brings the fluff up to and around his chest. Pa off the bowl at 5:40 and went to the rear and stood and looked at the fish at intervals. Finally after a couple of minutes, he pulled it up and began to eat.


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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here is pa bringing in fish. he did not eat, went to the eggs

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he eventually gets up and he eats but after some deliberation
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ma was in a few times to babysit nest. But never a move to egg.

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Pa is finished eating at 5:57 and to the bowl with the remnants of the egg shell and lining from the weekend caught on the rear talon of the right foot that he took to the bowl with him. It's on the wall of the bowl now and under his chest area as he laid down.


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 Post subject: Re: Berry College 2020
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:15heartbeat: Berry College Eagles

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We know that many of you have questions about the current state of things with the Berry nest, and wanted to take a moment to answer some of the most common. Thank you for your support of the eagles!

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FIRST EGG?

The first egg cracked Saturday morning. Some viewers first noticed part of the shell was missing, and by midday the shell was flattened (no eaglet remains were seen). The female eagle buried the remaining membrane from the egg on Tuesday morning.

IS THE REMAINING EGG VIABLE?

Though the male eagle continues to incubate the remaining egg intermittently, we are at the end of the viability window. The chances of this egg hatching are very slim. Most likely, one of the eagles will bury it in the nest.

WHY DID THE EGGS NOT HATCH?

Most commonly, eagle eggs do not hatch due to infertility or nonviability. In most cases it is impossible to know whether infertility or nonviability caused an egg not to hatch.

Some potential causes of nonviability include:

• Lack of sufficient nutrients to the developing embryo
• Lack of proper incubation (the egg must be kept at a stable temperature between about 95 and 104 degrees F, though the egg can be left alone for brief periods)
• The egg not being turned enough during incubation
• Penetration of the shell by bacteria or chemicals

WILL YOU GET THE REMAINING EGG SO IT CAN BE EXAMINED?

No personnel are permitted in the restricted area during nesting season. Any intervention will be determined by federal authorities.

CAN THE EAGLES LAY ANOTHER CLUTCH OF EGGS?

"Double clutching" occurs in the wild when an eagle pair's first set of eggs is damaged or lost in some way. Though the Southwest Florida pair recently laid another egg after losing their first eaglet and egg (wonderful news!), eagle biologists point out that most eagles will not lay another clutch if they have incubated for more than two weeks.


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