JERSEY CITY, NJ~2015

bev. · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:51 am

skygirlblue wrote:

I wasn't fast enough to catch the band..but, probably b/g 41/AX (do we know who this is yet?)

and then the unbanded one

ya know...I have to wonder if Athena and Six are somewhere else together..I remember, years ago at the Cobb nest, (Before Eve and Mitchell..and before the GHO who stole their nest this year..boo), the "Cobb Cuties" (that's what we called them) both disappeared...they were eventually found and were nesting at another old hack site on the Island...I'm sure Athena and Six, as well as the Cobb pair, wouldn't have given up their nest without protest..sooooooooooo...just dreaming here..LOL

that is how I see things SGB. when you do not hear bad news assume good news. becasue you never know . I am with you :loveheart:

mikeg713 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:59 pm

zev wrote:

Im sure we can do a thank you thread but I meant some kind of homage at the nest site. I.e a plaque or something...

They do have a display near the lobby with a monitor and some info about falcons, I could see if they'd want to put some photos of Athena and Six in there with their stories....

mikeg713 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:01 pm

skygirlblue wrote:

mikeg713 wrote:

zev wrote:

great to see some activity at the scrape but I think there should be some kind of homage to Athena at the site.

I agree Zev and it looks like we have to add Six to it.

Mind is spinning a bit, I'll figure out something to say about them (without it turning into a novel). Maybe we can create something (new thread?) where we can all post pics and memories?

Mike...we actually have a spot on this forum to honor the legends....I'm afraid we've kinda fallen behind in our tributes to some of the greats...but, if you would like to post something here to honor Athena and Six, then please let me know.

viewforum.php?f=8

Yea maybe something in this forum itself....

mikeg713 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:04 pm

skygirlblue wrote:

ya know...I have to wonder if Athena and Six are somewhere else together..I remember, years ago at the Cobb nest, (Before Eve and Mitchell..and before the GHO who stole their nest this year..boo), the "Cobb Cuties" (that's what we called them) both disappeared...they were eventually found and were nesting at another old hack site on the Island...I'm sure Athena and Six, as well as the Cobb pair, wouldn't have given up their nest without protest..sooooooooooo...just dreaming here..LOL

Great pics! The top cam has been acting jittery for me too, thought it was just my computer.

Bonnie texted me saying the same as you & Bev. Definitely a nice thought, and there's plenty of hunting ground to the south and west of JC (or farther if they wanted). They certainly earned a nice retirement!

Bonnie · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:36 pm

I seem to remember some of the water st kids were AX or X. How do I look at previous water st years?

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

Bonnie wrote:

I seem to remember some of the water st kids were AX or X. How do I look at previous water st years?

Some are listed in this blog...I started looking a few days ago, but never made it through the entire blog..(there are 10 pages)

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

carly wrote:

Found this in our archives (by our I mean BCAW) posted by kittenface in March of 2013.

I still think its one from the NY bridge there were 4 banded and 1 of them is b/g 42/ax

I don't know why but 41/AX is familiar to me, maybe saw a banded bird in photo somewhere but it rings a bell...

I saw that too, Carly...but what bridge? Haven't been able to find the NY bridge...

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

carly wrote:

And this in same topic a few pages down:

OK, HERE'S THE UPDATE ON AX/47-
THE BIRD IS A FEMALE THAT CAME FROM A GROUP OF 4 CHICKS AT THE WHITESTONE BRIDGE NEST (WHICH IS A STONE'S THROW FROM ORCHARD BEACH) IN 2012, BUT-
WAS ILL WHEN FOUND AND HAD TO BE TREATED FOR FROUNCE (?), THEN WAS FLIGHT TRAINED AT THE RAPTOR TRUST IN NJ, THEN WAS BANDED AND RELEASED NEAR NEW PALTZ, NY (!) ON 7/17/12. SO THE BIRD OBVIOUSLY HAS FOUND HER WAY BACK HOME

Saw that too...but, was banded after it came to ground...

why oh why do so many states not publish their data...

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

I remember when Dunn had a cam...LOL...wow...long time ago...

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

The Tappan Zee cam is new for this year...but, the nest has been there a while...I wonder if they have records of the past bandings..hmmmmmmmmmm....

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

I would imagine that somebody from NY DNR would have easy access to band numbers...if not, then I guess we could submit to the Bird Banding Laboratory...but, I've had no luck using their ID service...I think I need to have DNR somewhere after my name...LOL..

If push comes to shove, I can ask Donna (Columbus) to submit the band number. She's had good luck getting them to respond quickly...

mikeg713 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:08 pm

carly wrote:

And another 3 bridges..lol..safe to say NY is full of bridges..could be anywhere!

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/peregrine-falcon-verrazano-bridge-gil-hodges-bridges-261288431.html

Ain't that the truth, and I'd bet every one of them has a nest! Even the bridges that connect Staten Island and NJ (3 of them), at least 2 have nests (in fact the very 1st male at JC came from one of those).

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

Yep...that's why we've been so focused on NY....They used AW in 2011...I haven't found 2012 yet...but, AX for 2013...

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

I'm done looking for a while...I have looked at just about every pic, of every banding of every NY chick over the past several days...so, I think I'm done at least for today...LOL

mikeg713 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:12 pm

skygirlblue wrote:

I would imagine that somebody from NY DNR would have easy access to band numbers...if not, then I guess we could submit to the Bird Banding Laboratory...but, I've had no luck using their ID service...I think I need to have DNR somewhere after my name...LOL..

If push comes to shove, I can ask Donna (Columbus) to submit the band number. She's had good luck getting them to respond quickly...

One of our biologists Ben (a.k.a. "fishhawk" on here) sent the band info to the NY bander Chris Nadereski (hope I spelled his last name right). He's out of town this week but he'll be able to track this gal down. I did send the info to the BBL but they only give basic info (banded in NY on 5/25/2012).

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

Thanks Mike...did find this very cool vid from 2012 (they did one for 2011 too)

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 61947

Ironically, the chicks in the 3 nests from the vid were banded on 5/25/12...AND the bander is Chris!!

Beth · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:49 pm

Great detective work - thanks (!)

:gaaaaah:

mikeg713 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:39 pm

Beth wrote:

Great detective work - thanks (!)

:gaaaaah:

Yup Beth, welcome to spring, version 2015!

mikeg713 · **Posted:** Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:45 pm

A few pics of the new lady from late yesterday afternoon. She did some pebble-picking and scraping near the cam. Still haven't seen the male go in the box.

They posted a nice write-up from Kathy Clark:

"Winter is reluctantly giving way to spring. Peregrines are paired up for nesting. And, thankfully, the cameras are rolling in Jersey City. Keen and early observers have already documented important news for our JC pair: the female who has ruled this roost since 2002 is gone, replaced by a three year old with leg band 41/AX. Further, the reliable and stalwart tiercel 2/6 is also missing, replaced by a new, unbanded male.

To have both of these long-term nesters replaced in the same season is unusual. In 30 cases of mate replacements at NJ nests, only two involved both new adults in one season. We knew that the female was getting old, even though we didn’t know her exact origin or hatch-year; she had been nesting in JC since 2002 and likely hatched at least three years prior, in 1999. She did not lay eggs in 2014, another sure sign that she was entering peregrine old age. The tiercel was NJ’s oldest male nesting in 2014, but by no means a record-setter at 11 years old.

I suspect there were serious battles in the skies over Jersey City in the weeks leading up to this season. But then again, peregrines grow more vulnerable to many urban hazards as they get older. Their flying skills must be top-notch to navigate through buildings, wires and all kinds of vehicles. The original tiercel at JC was permanently injured in April, 2005, when he flew into a wire at the train station next door to 101 Hudson. Even experienced falcons can fall to these hazards, but advanced age increases those chances.

We will miss these two wonderful falcons. They are in the NJ Falcon Hall of Fame for being webcast all these years, and for living long and productive lives. Only one other nest, atop a casino in Atlantic City, has had similar long term resident individuals.

At the same time, we welcome the new falcons and look forward to a new start to this new season. Stay tuned. --Kathy Clark, ENSP Zoologist"

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