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 Post subject: Re: COLUMBUS, MARCH~2017
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:20 pm 
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Update from Donna!!



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:teehee: Donna has a great sense of humor. I didn't realize the male's behavior could throw off the female. I always thought the egg cycle was connected to daylight hours. Aries was a bit slow in getting up to speed with bonding, gifting, etc. I suspect he's new at this. Getting "in sync" is a great way for Donna to describe it.


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I didn't think much about it either, Nadia...but, I'm noticing that nests with a new "member" seem to be behind..


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Glad for the update Donna! Thank you!! I thought it might have something to do with the age difference.

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It's 4:00 am and Durand is sitting inside the nest box, Aries is sitting in front of the ledge cam. I hope that means an egg is on the way!


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Just now; Durand chirping to Aries to come into visit. Aries on the ledge.......

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:shamrock5: Donna's update...

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Probably the same time as Sally's pic

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Durand, scraping in the box, and Aries playing it cool on the ledge, cam end..will today be the day? Better not be, I gotta go to work!!


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:hmmmm I've been doing some research on this "in sync" thing. It is fascinating how egg laying is controlled. Here's some info if anyone is interested:

Durand's ovaries are switched on by a pituitary hormone activated by increased daylight. However, according to a post on the Rochester pfa site, "peregrine females can choose when to fertilize their eggs." This is advantageous in the wild. Durand can store Aries' sperm and "only begin the egg production process when she's found a safe nest site." I gather that the wording "safe nest site" is in a broad sense and includes the courtship process and having a mate that proves himself worthy as a provider. Most wild birds won't lay eggs if they don't have a mate. Their unfertilized eggs are re-absorbed by the body. Once incubation begins, the hormone prolactin switches off egg production in the ovaries. Clearly, egg production is complex and influenced by many outside factors that have to come together like a fine symphony. I suppose when Durand feels "safe"about nesting with Aries, she will lay those eggs.
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It is interesting though that Durand didn't have a late start with Spark. He arrived at the end of the nesting season as a sub-adult on 5/7/12 and she laid eggs with him on 3/19 for 3 years in a row (2013, 2014 & 2015). In 2016, she was early with him on 3/12. The years that Durand had poor mates, she laid on 3/26 in 2012 and on 4/3 in 2011. Seems that Durand was "in sync" with Spark from the start. :15heartbeat:


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That is an excellent observation! Peregrines are such fascinating birds, you never stop learning about them! It will be very interesting to see when we have an egg, that could signal Durand's comfort level with Aries after all!


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:hmmmm I've been doing some research on this "in sync" thing. It is fascinating how egg laying is controlled. Here's some info if anyone is interested:

Durand's ovaries are switched on by a pituitary hormone activated by increased daylight. However, according to a post on the Rochester pfa site, "peregrine females can choose when to fertilize their eggs." This is advantageous in the wild. Durand can store Aries' sperm and "only begin the egg production process when she's found a safe nest site." I gather that the wording "safe nest site" is in a broad sense and includes the courtship process and having a mate that proves himself worthy as a provider. Most wild birds won't lay eggs if they don't have a mate. Their unfertilized eggs are re-absorbed by the body. Once incubation begins, the hormone prolactin switches off egg production in the ovaries. Clearly, egg production is complex and influenced by many outside factors that have to come together like a fine symphony. I suppose when Durand feels "safe"about nesting with Aries, she will lay those eggs.
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It is interesting though that Durand didn't have a late start with Spark. He arrived at the end of the nesting season as a sub-adult on 5/7/12 and she laid eggs with him on 3/19 for 3 years in a row (2013, 2014 & 2015). In 2016, she was early with him on 3/12. The years that Durand had poor mates, she laid on 3/26 in 2012 and on 4/3 in 2011. Seems that Durand was "in sync" with Spark from the start. :15heartbeat:


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Durand in the box and Aries with a fresh caught bird by the ledge cam. He de-feathers and eats. Once full, he starts calling her and looking in her direction. She would not come out for a prey exchange, but was vocalizing. He takes off with the prey. She then comes out onto the ledge...he lands next to her with the prey. They interact close to each other for a while. Too blurry to see what was going on. Someone flies off with the prey. I think it was Aries...leaving Durand on the ledge. I guess she's not hungry...again! Can't say the poor guy didn't try.

7:42 pm - Durand
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7:50 pm - Aries starts calling Durand, but she doesn't come out of the box
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It was Durand, who remained on the ledge. She is now perched on the nest cam. We'll see what the night brings.


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I have high hopes for Aries. Sometimes the new dads make the best dads. They are captivated by the chicks and embrace their duties if allowed by the female. And I'm pretty sure that Durand welcomes the help. I pray this happens here because Durand has already had big time losers as mates. I hate it that Spark is gone, but maybe we will hear of him again. I hope so since he was Boomer's son and we lost Boomer so soon. It would be a shame to lose Spark too. Of course Aries is the son of Ariel so we can't go wrong here. Scout and Orville, always remembered.
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no cam this morning...at least for me... :girlsad3:


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no cam this morning...at least for me... :girlsad3:



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Durand has been hanging out in the box for the past 10 minutes. Is today the day?


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She was waiting for you to be home MA!!

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