COLUMBUS ~ MAY 2014

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:15 am **Posts:** 10250

SWINWK wrote:

DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE SAW MY POST ON REX GENE MUTATIONS. DO NOT KNOW IF IT OCCURS IN BIRDS OR JUST MAMMALS. I HAVE TRIED TO FIND INFO ON CURLY FEATHERS IN BIRDS. FOUND SCIENTISTS DO STUDY FRIZZLE CHICKENS TO UNDERSTAND THAT PARTICULAR MUTATION AND POSSIBLY APPLY TO WILD BIRD SPECIES POPULATION. MAKES ME THINK THERE ARE GENE MUTATIONS IN BIRDS THAT CAN CAUSE FEATHER VARIANCES. I AM SPEAKING AS LAYPERSON ONLY.

Hi SWINWK - I did see your post regarding the Rex gene mutation. And maybe there is some kind of mutation, because I find it interesting that 2 of the 3 have the wave/curl in their fuzz and looks like some kind of yellow coloration. I've only see white fuzzy eyasses, so not sure what/why the difference here. We know on #3, she had him under her after he was hatched. Thank you for looking that up!

:eggthumbup:

Will be interesting to see if this goes away, or if they retain the curl/wave as they grow and when they are banded.

bev. · **Posted:** Thu May 01, 2014 10:18 pm

Terka posted the video of the feed I had. I found it hard to see i f little one go t fed but I have to believe it got a few bites.

I am not making light of anything, but when we had 3 chicks left at Bell last year we so worried about the 3rd one. but you know he learned how to scootch to the front., or around to the side. He even became quite the hog after awhile :teehee:

and it took awhile for him to grow, bu the did.

We have seen too many tragedies and sad things but try and remember all the ones that survived that we thought not. the 2nd eaglet at Blackwater , comes to mind right now.

If you think hard , Not be in g demeaning here, I just have to really reach back far sometimes :girlyes:

, we have seen females not quite feed the chicks till they are full before. They all have different strategies. Some feed till chicks cannot move. this does not seem to be Durand's strategy and it may change.

I am going to relate this to humans feeding babies. I always followed a schedule. I did not feed till stuffed . some fed every time baby cried. I know birds are different but somehow the same.

I have been watching the feathers because of our chicks at U of A a few years ago.however ones at U of a were not born with feathers this way, it developed after. These may just have something lacking in system, when born , that will be overcome. I think one o f them is getting fluffier.
I am going to do further research.

I think Durand is doing well, just not how we think she should do. :egg17:

sorry for epistle :girlcrazy:

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

SWINWK wrote:

DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE SAW MY POST ON REX GENE MUTATIONS. DO NOT KNOW IF IT OCCURS IN BIRDS OR JUST MAMMALS. I HAVE TRIED TO FIND INFO ON CURLY FEATHERS IN BIRDS. FOUND SCIENTISTS DO STUDY FRIZZLE CHICKENS TO UNDERSTAND THAT PARTICULAR MUTATION AND POSSIBLY APPLY TO WILD BIRD SPECIES POPULATION. MAKES ME THINK THERE ARE GENE MUTATIONS IN BIRDS THAT CAN CAUSE FEATHER VARIANCES. I AM SPEAKING AS LAYPERSON ONLY.

Thanks...I did see your post earlier and just forgot to comment...I did some brief research earlier and I don't believe it occurs in birds..

Like I posted above, we chuckled over the curly wet look of chick #2, but for chick #3 to look the same...I think its more than coincidence..I've tried researching feather issues with not much luck..there is something called wet feather, but that is usually caused by mites...I don't think there were mites in the eggs so I don't think that can apply here...I'm still looking..maybe some nutritional deficit while still in the egg?

we know they will lose that natal down...but, what will replace them...that will be interesting to see. Other than the feathers, they seem healthy and energetic...

SWINWK · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:41 am **Posts:** 12730

THANKS YOU ALL. I ALSO READ ABOUT NUTRITIONAL DEFECIENCIES AND SOME MEDICAL CONCERNS. BUT, SOMETHING I RAN ACROSS OTHER THAN FRIZZLE CHICKENS WAS THE SEBASTOPOL GOOSE AND WHAT A BEAUTIFUL CREATURE IT IS. PULL UP A PHOTO, IF YOU LIKE. I NEVER KNEW EITHER EXISTED PREVIOUS. THE THINGS YOU END UP LEARNING FROM COMING TO BCAW NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME! :eggthumbup:

SKYGIRLBLUE CHECK OUT SALT LAKE!

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

Dang...lots of reading out there...

I caved in and emailed Donna...LOL

bev. · **Posted:** Fri May 02, 2014 1:21 am

skygirlblue wrote:

#2, but for chick #3 to look the same...I think its more than coincidence..I've tried researching feather issues with not much luck..there is something called wet feather, but that is usually caused by mites...I don't think there were mites in the eggs so I don't think that can apply here...I'm still looking..maybe some nutritional deficit while still in the egg?

we know they will lose that natal down...but, what will replace them...that will be interesting to see. Other than the feathers, they seem healthy and energetic...[/b]

This is what I as thinking. the chicks at U of A had mites and that other affliction from what they had eaten,
but as SGB said they were born that way.

Sally · **Posted:** Fri May 02, 2014 7:22 am

Hi - I was out of touch yesterday so I have a lot of catching up to do. I just noticed that Karen posted a new blog:

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

Time to eat...Durand is blocking and I can only see part of one chick...

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:15 am **Posts:** 10250

Here are the kids when Durand was coming in...

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:15 am **Posts:** 10250

After feed

mwplay · **Joined:** Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:15 am **Posts:** 10250

Finally, Spark gets some time with the kids!

:clap:

Like maybe 1 minute before Durand returned...

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

Thanks for the pics....let me see what other ones I have...

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

From the last feed..

and of course, pics of Cutie Sparks

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

Now she's kakking up a storm...nothing on ledge cam...of course....thankfully, it didn't wake the kids...

SWINWK · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:41 am **Posts:** 12730

PICS-

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

Durand on the ledge...stretching/preening/staring off into space...

SWINWK · **Joined:** Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:41 am **Posts:** 12730

WAS THAT SPARK FLYING?

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

Aha....bird in the distance and she just took off...not spark...too large...turkey vulture?

skygirlblue · **Joined:** Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:18 pm **Posts:** 64402

SWINWK wrote:

WAS THAT SPARK FLYING?

I don't think so...too large and not very fast...

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