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PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 3:48 pm 
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Such sad developments, poor little juvies. They don't have a home anymore or a Mom. And dad is occupied and no doubt trying to keep his ledge. I'm not that optimistic that he can handle them AND her. :girlsad3:


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I think he can do it. They may not be able to go to ledge but they can go a bit further away, and will be no threat and 85 can feed them. It was said that they did not see 85 as much-which to me means he is training away from site. this male is as good as any.
of course he will bond with female. It is instinct to survive, but he will not forget his crew, so to speak.
yes, if falloffs are together for a long while they have a special bond but that does not mean another can not be as good.

hoping for best outcome. waiting to hear from Jane.

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(Wish I could get this cam.)

I do not think 85 will desert them, either. I think it will be just a matter of how he can be with the kids and steer them clear of this new female....Yet come back to the ledge for "bonding"...

I know that Falconwire referenced the arrival of Niecey (48/AE)....but I seem to recall a similar situation in Canada..was it Toronto? New Female at post fledge and the resident male was witnessed moving the fledglings slightly out of territory and out of harms way... and it turned out OK..did I dream that?


I mentioned this SGB in a post a bit before your post. You are correct. Mark Nash went to a Toronto site and saw new female and watched her start to chase kids off. He kept track and saw male protect and move juveniles further away. Things seemed to turn out.

What a year.

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I will respond more later, as I am totally drained in all possible ways. I made a mistake last night with a post on Facebook. This female is the granddaughter of Little Dad and Mom, not Niecey. Her father Yellow Boy was from Little Dad's first nesting in 2005. Sadly Yellow Boy was lost last year too. :-(


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get a well deserved rest Jane.
thanks for your response.

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Thanks, Jane. He's perched atop the front wall of the nest preening and talking some. I do not see or hear her.

A little later she flew in to the ledge and they went inside the nest to bond. He left shortly and she spent some time in the nest, then to the top of the front wall.


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Jane wrote:
I will respond more later, as I am totally drained in all possible ways. I made a mistake last night with a post on Facebook. This female is the granddaughter of Little Dad and Mom, not Niecey. Her father Yellow Boy was from Little Dad's first nesting in 2005. Sadly Yellow Boy was lost last year too. :-(


Thanks Jane...Granddaughter of Lil' Dad and Mom...how bitter sweet is that...if it weren't for the current situation, we would be overjoyed with this news...So sad to hear about Yellow Boy..(I don't know why I thought "Blue Boy" was there!!) Do you happen to know her hatch year?

I know you must be thoroughly and completely exhausted...both physically and emotionally...you take care of yourself..and get rest when you can.


Bev..thanks for confirming the Canada situation. Apologies for not seeing your prior post..so much to try and keep up with..


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no worries SGB

I do not even have time to change my mind these days LOl
praying here for the best outcome

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:15heartbeat: From the "Falcon Wire":

6/7/2022 :: 2022 Falcon Watch and Rescue Concludes
Yesterday, Falcon Watch and Rescue volunteers continued to monitor the area around the Rachel Carson State Office Building (RCSOB) to determine if the juvenile falcons would return to the nest ledge, or would they heed the clear "stay out!" message 09/BS left with them? For the second consecutive night the juveniles stayed away, and it is unlikely they will return. The concern over the future of these falcons is understandable. It is possible the dominant male (85/AK) will provide some continuing support for the juveniles so they can further their development and reach independence. This has occurred at other nest sites within the Commonwealth in which at least one of the male juveniles survived into adulthood and showed up and was identified by its bands at another site a couple years later. Being banded improves the potential of later identification.

Recognizing this is not the preferred outcome Falcon Cam followers anticipated, it does ensure that the RCSOB nest site will continue its productivity. There is a possibility this pair may renest and produce a second clutch of eggs this summer. DEP will continue to monitor the situation.

09/BS does have a direct connection to the RCSOB site since the former dominant male W/V is her grandfather. Her grandmother, the dominant female at that time, was banded 4/4 and bred successfully on the RCSOB from 2000 to 2010. Retired Falcon Coordinator Art McMorris banded 09/BS in May of 2017 in Reading, PA.

DEP will continue to provide updates especially if/when more information on Yellow, Green, and Red is received. Falcon Wire will also continue to provide updates on 48/AE, the former female.

There are many lessons to be learned and digested from this situation. Wildlife, for the sake of the species survival, does not necessarily respond as people would wish. This can be difficult to accept but has been effective since falcons appeared on this Earth. The resilience of peregrine falcons remains a remarkable comeback in wildlife history and Pennsylvania's biodiversity will benefit by having peregrine falcons continue to fill their niche within the food chain.

Thank you to all the Falcon Watch and Rescue volunteers! You have performed admirably during a difficult year. In addition, Red Creek Wildlife Center's Peggy Hentz deserves a shout out for her work with 48/AE and the juveniles, she is a remarkable advocate for wildlife.


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I am pretty sure this female hatched in Reading in 2017. On Sunday morning around 11:00 we saw two falcons flying high overhead, and just assumed it was two juvies. Less than an hour later she was in the scrape and we got her band numbers. Later Red and Green, our two females, we sitting on top of the column above the nest ledge, when this female started bombing them. Both Red and Green flew off, and I honestly don't remember where they went. They both were seen later in the day, Green on top of a very tall apartment building, and Red on the roof of Carson in the back. Yellow ended up inside a balcony on a nearby apartment building around 4:00.. Because it was Sunday, there was nobody there to give access to that balcony. We knew nothing of his condition. Later Sunday evening Red and Green were spotted in two different places. They were both driven off by this female. Around 8:00 on Monday morning, access to the room behind the balcony was given in the hopes that he could be rescued, but by then he was up on the railing of that balcony and flew. Almost immediately he was chased by this new female, but he escaped, and we never could tell where he went. All three seemed to be in the same general area, but I am not familiar with some of those parts of Harrisburg, and not a place where I would feel comfortable if alone. We stayed downtown until dark on Monday night, and saw no signs of any juvies. Our hope is that 85 knows where they are and is caring for them. Yellow may be close to being able to catch his own food, and maybe Green also. Not so sure about Red. Such a heartbreaking turn of events in all possible ways.


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:15heartbeat: Jane, you are right she did hatch in 2017 per today's "Falcon Wire" report that I posted above at about the same time you were posting and didn't see. Thanks for your report! I am so sorry for you and all of the others who have assisted here. I sure hope we start getting some good news/reports on all concerned soon...


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The female was on the point preening and she reached around and pulled out a long white feather. Didn't stay long. She flew up to the left slowly as if she were going to land on something near there that is out of our view. I assumed she was going somewhere along the side of the building, but wonder now if she was going to perch on the cam as Lil Dad used to do. That cam is no longer in view from the ledge cam.


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:dancegirl: Wow, they've adjusted the stick, ledge and point cams since my previous post. We can see the cam Lil Dad used to perch on from the ledge cam again and the cam above the nest from the stick cam! Nobody home for now.


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:15heartbeat: Update from the "Falcon Wire":

6/8/2022 :: Update on 48/AE
We have an update from Red Creek Wildlife Center on the situation with 48/AE, the former dominant female of the Rachel Carson State Office Building (RCSOB). This falcon was diagnosed with a dislocation which has led to additional torn tendons. Unfortunately, injuries like this take longer to recover from than an actual fracture. Therefore, the recovery period, at a minimum, is at least three months. It is too early to determine if she will recover 100% and be able to fly. 48/AE will not be returned to the wild unless she is completely healed. This is necessary due to the high speeds that peregrine falcons can reach. At this time, the prognosis is not great, but Red Creek Wildlife Center are doing everything they can to facilitate a complete recovery. A release won't be considered for some time and it is unlikely 48/AE will ever be able to be returned to the vicinity of the RCSOB.


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She's perched quietly on the front wall of the nest.


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Thank for posting this information, SWINWK.

A couple of days ago I posted that VA had a program where they relocated juvenile peregrines to the mountains from bridges and other nests that weren't necessarily successful for the juveniles. The death rate among juvies is tremendous. I hadn't heard anything about that for several years and I thought they had given it up. Well, it turns out that isn't the case. Obxbarb posted in a blog that I'm a member of that they had rescued chicks on a bridge for relocating to wilderness areas. Hope it works. Maybe that will cut down on too many peregrines vying for the same nests.

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A couple of days ago I posted that VA had a program where they relocated juvenile peregrines to the mountains from bridges and other nests that weren't necessarily successful for the juveniles. The death rate among juvies is tremendous. I hadn't heard anything about that for several years and I thought they had given it up. Well, it turns out that isn't the case. Obxbarb posted in a blog that I'm a member of that they had rescued chicks on a bridge for relocating to wilderness areas. Hope it works. Maybe that will cut down on too many peregrines vying for the same nests.


I know it works here in Alberta Nancy. We have several falcons that were released on Pembina hack site, that are nesting on other cliffs, and some that are relocating outside the urban areas. they have a hack south in the more southern part of province also, which spreads them out.
If I had one wish, it would be that none nested in urban areas.

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She's currently on the point quietly looking around. 85 is not in sight.


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She appears to be eating.

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